Future Rock Hall - the 2008 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees

The 2008 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees

The 2008 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees were announced on September 27th. For the second consecutive year, only nine nominees were named, and of those, five will be inducted.

Cast your 2008 ballot here!

Future Rock Hall correctly predicted six of the nine nominees for 2008.

Much more on the 2008 nominations in the FRH Blog.

Here are your official 2008 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees (all quotes from the official press release):

Afrika Bambaataa "began DJing at block parties in the Bronx in 1977 with the help of Universal Zulu Nation, an organization he founded to help pull Bronx youth away from gangs. Bambaataa’s stunning knowledge of obscure funk grooves and his turntable skills earned him the nickname “Master of Records.” As his parties grew, so did his Zulu Nation – which soon encompassed the Bronx’s finest rappers, break dancers and graffiti artists. In 1982, Bambaataa released the Kraftwerk-sampling hit single “Planet Rock” which spawned an entirely new genre of music: electro funk. In 1984, he teamed up with former Sex Pistol John Lydon for “World Destruction” one of the earliest examples of rap fusing with rock and roll."
Current Induction Chances: 26%
Beastie Boys "began as a hardcore punk band in 1982, but soon jumped to the city’s vibrant rap scene. Their Rick Rubin-produced album, Licensed to Ill, was a masterful collage of classic rock samples, pop culture references and bratty attitude. Its fifth single, “(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party)” became an MTV staple and the party anthem of the 1980s. The Beasties’ follow up, 1989’s Paul’s Boutique was a critically loved masterwork of sampling. In the 1990s, they became elder statesmen of the genre, scoring monster hits (“Sabotage”, “Intergalatic”) while speaking out about social and political issues such as the Tibetan Freedom Concerts. In 2007, the Beasties released The Mix-Up, a post-punk instrumental album further showcasing their boundless originality."
Current Induction Chances: 82%
Chic "was a pioneering New York jazz-funk group led by Nile Rodgers on guitar, Bernard Edwards on bass and Tony Thompson on drums. Chic brought refined musicianship and rhythmic innovation to 1970s disco, and also laid the foundation for hip hop, with their song “Good Times” providing the music for the groundbreaking hit “Rapper’s Delight.” Chic created some of the disco era’s classic songs such as “Dance, Dance, Dance (Yowsah, Yowsah, Yowsah)” and “Le Freak.” Rodgers and Edwards went on to write and produce some of the ’80s’ biggest pop songs for Madonna, David Bowie, Mick Jagger, Diana Ross, Sister Sledge, and others."
Current Induction Chances: 54%
Leonard Cohen "With the 1966 release of In My Life by Judy Collins, containing Leonard Cohen’s “Suzanne” and “Dress Rehearsal Rag,” Cohen became a folk rock icon of the singer songwriter movement. Already an acclaimed poet and novelist in his native Canada, Cohen moved to New York in 1967 and released his classic album Songs of Leonard Cohen on Columbia Records. Its music launched Leonard Cohen into the highest and most influential echelon of songwriters. Cohen’s elegiac work is widely used in film and covered by artists from Jeff Buckley to Bono to Bob Dylan to R.E.M. As Kurt Cobain said, 'Give me a Leonard Cohen afterworld so I can sigh eternally.'"
Current Induction Chances: 64%
The Dave Clark Five "topped the UK charts in 1965 with their iconic pop song “Glad All Over.” Thundering production set the DC5 apart. Their slick melodic sensibility masked their boom factor: The DC5 were the loudest group in the U.K. until the advent of The Who. Drummer, songwriter and manager Dave Clark provided a perfect foundation for Mike Smith’s soulful vocals. Reaching the Top Forty 17 times in just three years, with more appearances on the Ed Sullivan show than the Beatles or the Rolling Stones, the DC5 were an enormous pop phenomenon before disbanding in 1970. The Dave Clark Five have sold more than 50 million records worldwide to date."
Current Induction Chances: 42%
Madonna "Doors opened wide for Madonna Louise Ciccone in 1982, after five years as a singer and dancer on New York City’s competitive club circuit. She signed with Sire Records (her label for the next 14 years) where her idiosyncratic persona exploded onto turntables, dance floors and airwaves and captured the imagination of the first generation of MTV viewers. She went on to become the top female star of the 1980s with seven #1 hits, three #1 albums and seventeen top ten hits in that decade. In addition to molding her public image, Madonna is a meticulous studio craftsperson and completely uninhibited stage performer. From her first #1, 1984’s “Like A Virgin” (produced by Nile Rogers of Chic) to her most recent two year Confessions campaign, Madonna remains one of the most ferociously original artists in music today."
Current Induction Chances: 83%
John Mellencamp "has become a symbol of the hopes, struggles and passions of America’s heartland. As a songwriter, many of his efforts have transcended “hit” status (“Hurts So Good,” “Pink Houses,” “I Need A Lover”) and have entered the cultural vernacular. Mellencamp’s musical heart is in his ballads and rock numbers rooted in late 50s and early 60s rock and roll. His music describes the American experience; the hopes and fears of the common everyman. As co-founder of Farm Aid, Indiana’s favorite son gives voice to issues that might otherwise be ignored, from our disappearing farmlands to the role of race and class in America."
Current Induction Chances: 62%
Donna Summer "Raised in the church, rooted in gospel, LaDonna Andrea Gaines would become Donna Summer, the undisputed “Queen of Disco.” In 1975, “Love To Love You Baby” began a long-term association with Munich-based songwriters and producers Giorgio Moroder and Pete Bellotte. Summer made history from 1979-1980 as the only artist ever to have three consecutive multi disc albums all hit #1: Live and More, Bad Girls and On The Radio. Her first U.S. recorded LP, the self-titled Donna Summer, produced by Quincy Jones in 1982 featured Bruce Springsteen and other notable rock contributors. “She Works Hard For The Money” kept Summer at the top of the charts in 1983, followed by the top 10 hit “This Time I Know It’s Real” in 1989. Endless covers and sampling of her music proves that Summers’ contribution remains compelling and classic."
Current Induction Chances: 72%
The Ventures "defined instrumental guitar rock in the 1960s. Their hits bookended the decade, from 1960’s “Walk Don’t Run” to 1969’s “Hawaii Five-O.” Nokie Edwards’ twang-guitar and the crisp rhythm of Don Wilson, bassist Bob Bogle and drummer Mel Taylor gave every Ventures album their trademark bent note sound. Long admired by other bands like the Beatles (and especially George Harrison), Stephen Stills, Joe Walsh, Aerosmith, and others, The Ventures hit the Billboard chart nearly three dozen times in the 1960s. The transparent stereo mixes enabled guitarists to isolate and learn every riff, an idea that fueled 1965’s essential instruction LP Play Guitar With The Ventures. Founders of surf rock, The Ventures inspired a classic line of Mosrite guitars and have maintained a flourishing touring and recording career for decades, especially in Europe and Japan."
Current Induction Chances: 46%

The Rock Hall voting committee will now cast their ballots with five names to determine the winners, which will be announced in January, 2008. The inductees will be honored at the annual Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Ceremony on March 10th, 2008.

Artists are eligible for the Rock Hall 25 years after releasing their first record.

* The "Current Induction Chances" represent the artist's odds of ever being inducted into the Hall of Fame, as calculated by Future Rock Hall and its users.

Future Rock Hall forecasts which of today's artists will be the next generation's Rock & Roll Hall of Famers by using a combination of historically predictive criteria, user votes, and nomination patterns.

Future Rock Hall lists eligible artists by first year of eligiblity or alphabetically.

This is where you will find the 2008 Inductees after they are announced on December 13, 2007.

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Current Comments

338 comments so far (post your own)

I much prefer the list of predictions compiled by this site. This list is seriously underwhelming.

I'm saddened and disheartened.

I tip my glass of milk to Metallica, Depeche Mode, Peter Gabriel, Hall & Oates, Kraftwerk, Joy Division, Tom Waits and so many others. You are in my hall of fame, and I'm glad all over DC5 is not.

Posted by Matt. on Thursday, 09.27.07 @ 21:22pm

I can't even vote five times! My fingers refuse to click more than the Beasties and Madonna. Rock Hall 2008, party of two.

This is ouuuuur coountray!

Posted by Matt. on Thursday, 09.27.07 @ 21:26pm

Leonard Cohen and The Ventures are fabulous surprises, but 5 of 9 nominations going to disco/rap is a few tooooo many.................

Posted by SG on Thursday, 09.27.07 @ 23:06pm

Well, I think we now have conclusive proof that some of the nominators read this site. I mean, there was a fuckin' deluge of Ventures posts right around the time they convened. :/

Leonard Cohen's a nice surprise (can you say MOVIE?), but where's Metallica/Sonic Youth? WTF? It's so obvious there's politics at play here.

Springsteen-ness: They outright mention that he worked with Donna Summer and Mellencamp is obviously a devotee.

Chic: Bruce likes the Chic, but did they REALLY have to give them a shoutout in the Madonna blurb. Seriously skewed.

This definitely proved my theory correct that The Stooges finished a dismal 8th place last year. Cleared from the ballot along with Joe Tex.

I'd vote for:

1) Leonard Cohen
2) Beastie Boys
3) Afrika Bambaataa
4) Madonna
5) Chic - Seems like the least offensive of the lot. DC5/Ventures are truly minor 60's acts, I won't open a can of worms with the Mellencamp argument...Donna Summer is just plain confusing, inconsistent career with some forgettable highlights.

Posted by Casper on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 01:06am

I only see 2 Ventures posts on this site-both from 1-8-07.

"The Ventures hit the Billboard chart nearly three dozen times in the 1960s"

"Reaching the Top Forty 17 times in just three years, with more appearances on the Ed Sullivan show than the Beatles or the Rolling Stones, the DC5 were an enormous pop phenomenon before disbanding in 1970. The Dave Clark Five have sold more than 50 million records worldwide to date."

DC5/Ventures don't seem like minor 60's acts to me.

1) Leonard Cohen
2)Beastie Boys
3)Ventures
4)DC5
5)Mellencamp

Posted by SG on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 01:29am

My bad, the Ventures stuff was over on that RateItAll list....their score was hugely inflated lately with a ton of generic posts (similar to the SRV stuff we see now and then here)...

Posted by Casper on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 02:25am

To further clarify, their fans basically spammed that site and the band shot up to nearly the top of the "who should be inducted" ranking...meanwhile, there was a massive campaign to contact the Hall, etc...

Posted by Casper on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 02:31am

Love the Afrika Bambaataa nomination... Definitely lays the groundwork for letting in the next generation of hall of famers. You gotta get the pioneers in while you have the chance.

Looks like the Beastie Boys and Madonna are going to have to provide the fireworks at the induction ceremony. Without them, wake me when it's over.

Posted by c.w. on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 07:02am

Alright!!!!

Here's my picks for 2008 hall of fame, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012

2008
Madonna
Beastie Boys
John Mellencamp
Dave Clark Five
Donna Summer

2009
Metallica
Run DMC
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Stooges
Leonard Cohen

2010
Bon Jovi
Kiss
Alice Cooper
Genesis
Sting

2011
Janet Jackson
Ringo Starr
Dire Straits
Peter Gabriel
Rush

2012
Guns and Roses
Hall and Oates
Joy Division
Depeche Mode
Tina Turner

Posted by KVP on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 07:07am

I can see Stooges pulling a Johnny Rotten. Kiss pulling a Black Sabbath, and Guns n Roses pulling a Van Halen when inducteed finally.

Posted by Kyle on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 07:10am

Jann Wenner needs to get kicked off the committee if this was his doing

Posted by Kyle on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 07:11am

Well, Madonna and the Beasties are locks. My attention is focused solely on Leonard Cohen. I'm a huge fan. Huge, huge fan. I'm pretty much keeping my fingers crossed.

My ballot (alphabetical)

The Beastie Boys
Leonard Cohen
The Dave Clark Five
Madonna
The Ventures

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 07:38am

It's funny that Metallica showed they could "play nice" at Sabbath's induction but then get screwed during their first year of eligibility.

Posted by Trashy on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 07:40am

I don't think Metallica was eligible this year because Kill 'Em All was released in 1983. Trashy, I think Future Rock Hall made a mistake with Metallica being eligible this year. Metallica will be nominated next year trust me. I am reponding to your comment that you made this morning.

Posted by Patrick on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 08:01am

Self produced demos don't count as first recording. so they will no let metallica be eligible untill 2008

locks
Madonna
Beasties boys

Maybes
John melloncamp
Dave clark 5
Afrika bambatta
Donna summers

F no
Chic
Leonard Cohen
The Ventures

Posted by Martin on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 08:14am

Wow, Leonard Cohen is a HUGE surprise. I didn't think he would ever get in, or even be given the chance. He might have a chance.

I can't help but wonder if these lacklustre artists are being nominated so that the voters are FORCED to put in disco and rap.

And with Sonic Youth being snubbed, I wonder how many people are going start saying the Rock Hall hates alt rock?

Should get in
Beastie Boys
Leonard Cohen

Will get in
Madonna
Beastie Boys
John Mellancamp
Donna Summers
Dave Clark Five

Posted by Stevie on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 09:23am

Thanks to those who clarified the Metallica elligibility issue. I am sure we will see them nominated and inducted next year.

As I said in some other section yesterday, it is absurd that the entire genre of prog rog yet again gets the shaft as if it does not even exist. We are pondering the worth of Donna freakin' Summer while the likes of Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Yes and King Crimson have yet to be nominated. Also, metal is by and large ignored as well. Judas Priest? Yet to be nominated.

If I were a voter, from this list, my votes would be:
Madonna
Beastie Boys
John Mellencamp
Afrika Bambaata
The Ventures or Leonard Cohen (I am still undecided for my 5th slot)

Posted by Dezmond on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 09:47am

I had such hopes for this slate, but jesus christ it's hard to even come up with five. In my mind, the two rap artists cancel each other out, and please god why are they shoving the minor movement that was disco in our faces like this? It's quite clear Wenner wants music to have stopped at 1977, it's clear through his writing and through the way the Hall is run.

Cohen's nomination was the only plesant surprise.

So, my ballot, filled out under duress:

Cohen
Bambaata
Madonna
Mellencamp
SONIC YOUTH YOU JERKS

Posted by Kit on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 10:53am

My picks out of this line-up

Donna Summer - Who is a primary artistic and commercial leader in not only defining and expanding the scope of what disco was and what dance and pop music is today, but is still a viable force in this lack-luster line-up of musical talent we have today.

Beastie Boys - Although I don't own any of their music, I recognize and respect their place not only in rap/rock history, but their expansion of the artform into a larger mass audience.

Madonna - Next in line to the legendary Aretha Franklin stands Madonna. No she can't sing anywhere near Ms. Franklin's abilities, however she is the first to combine talent, imigary, and media into a mega-force that is Madonna.

After that I say let the remainder of the candidates fight it out. Death Match 2008! (lol)

Posted by Jakeinlove on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 11:44am

The Rock Hall CEOs are in their own goddamn universe of reality. Fuck their tiny 5 nominees club designed to create exclusivity - fuck it.
I am just fine with significant rap artists getting in -- but not at the cost of stepping over the laundry list of worthy artists from the 70's and 80's habitually being abandoned in the dark and musty corners of the rock music garage.
Are they hoping we just eventually forget about the entire prog and alternative genres?

Leonard Cohen over Sonic Youth? Donna freaking Summer over The Cure? Chic over Genesis? Afrika Bambaataa over Alice Coooper? And even within rap genre - Beasties over Run DMC? Ventures over The Stooges? Disco over Metal? WTF??????????????

It's to the point that it's not even worth talking about any longer. Add Sonic Youth now to the backlog clog. Stodgy old men obviosly are at the helm of this commitee. I'm done paying attention. It's beyond a joke now - it's a certifiable farce.

Glad for Mellencamp finally.

Posted by shawn on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 11:55am

If I were a voter I would say:
1-Leonard Cohen the only legendary artist on this list
2-Afrika Bambaataa: my favorite one and on an equal footing with grandmaster flash
3-John Mellencamp: because he is probably the most truly rock artist there
4-Dave Clark Five: because they were supposed to be inducted last year
5-The Ventures
6-Madonna: just to tell that if Iggy is waiting qhe can wait one year too
7-Beastie Boys: more important than that but 2rap artists would be too much
8-Dona Summer
9-CHIC

Posted by roméo on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 12:28pm

Well,while I agree with the nods to Mellencamp,Dave Clark Five,Madonna,Donna Summer,Chic and The Ventures..I don;t know enough about the others to comment.

As for The Beastie Boys,I don't recall them recording anything back in '83! Wasn't "License To Ill" their very first recorsing in 1986? If so,that's not 25 years.

I seriously suggest dumping the "Boys" and giving it to one of the acts that has been waiting since this whole Rock and Roll Hall of Fame started.

I.E. :

The Moody Blues (They're not getting any younger!)
The Grass Roots
Alice Cooper
Kiss
Heart
Chicago
and maybe for a little originality...
Gordon Lightfoot.
Gordon Lightfoot has recorded twenty great albums that offer the listener something wonderful to hear each time. Whether he's doing folk,pop/rock-country,straight rock or adult contemporary.

I feel,based on "The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald" alone he hould be inducted because it's an inccredible example of creative musicianship and songwriting. A staple of his music overall and his lyrics are unforgettable.

Not to mention he's been in this business since 1962 and has been playing clubs and touring almost non-stop since then. He's already announced his next tour will start in Oct. of 2008! He still sells out concert halls and still has a large following. If you can induct Gene Pitney,you can induct Gordon Lightfoot!

Beastie Boys are young enough to wait awhile,if you don't choose Gordon at least make it one of these acts far more deserving acts,please.

Posted by Walter laMont on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 17:03pm

WELL IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME THE RHF FINALLY GOT IT RIGHT DONNA SUMMER SHOULD HAVE BEEN INDUCTED! IF IT WEREN'T FOR HER THERE WOULD BE NO MADONNA HENCE HER NOMINATION WITH DONNNA & A WHOLE LIST OF OTHER ARTIST WHO CAME AFTER AND COPIED HER.HOW LONG WILL THIS VOCAL POWERHOUSE AND TRUE MUSICAL LEGEND BE OVERLOOKED GIVE THIS WOMAN HER DUE.WHY IS DONNA SUMMER SO UNDERATED IN THIS INDUSTRY IT'S A SHAME!NOT ONLY IS SHE A SINGER SHE EITHER WROTE OR CO WROTE EVERY HIT SHE HAD! HOW MANY CAN SAY THAT? SHE CAN SING ROCK,COUNTRY,R&B,GOSPEL,DISCO & MUSICAL THEATER AND SHES A FABULOUS ARTIST TO BOOT.SHES TRULY OVERDUE FOR THIS GET IT RIGHT PEOPLE! MADONNA SHOULD THANK DONNA FOR HER CAREER AND HER NOMINATION ALONG SIDE A REAL VOICE. I KNOW I'LL GET LOTS OF FLACK ABOUT MY MADONNA COMMENT BUT WHO CARES IT'S THE TRUTH. I LIKE MADGE BUT SHE IS NO SINGER SHE IS AN ENTERTAINER AND A GOOD ONE TOO BOOT ,BUT SHE IS NOT IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS DONNA SUMMER! MY LIST IS AS FOLLOWS
1 DONNA SUMMER
2 JOHN MELLENKAMP
3 MADONNA
4 CHIC
I THINK THIS SHOULD BE A YEAR OF 4 INDUCTEES
AND WHILE I'M HERE WHY HAS GRACE JONES NOT BEEN INDUCTED OR CONSIDERED ALONG WITH ASFORD AND SIMPSON AND PAT BENATAR YOU GUYS ARE NUTS!
IN CLOSING DO THE RIGHT THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by MARCUS on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 19:45pm

4 inductees? Are you joking?! People are already complaining that five isn't enough. Why the hell would you want the Hall to cut the number down even more in the exact same year that they snubbed so many first-time eligibles?

The Hall is barely teetering on the edge of relevant as it is. I think they have an actual vendetta against their own credibility.

Posted by William on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 20:18pm

Madonna should get in the hall, hands down she is the BIGGEST female performer EVER!!! Madonna still reinvents herself and she does it better than ANYONE!!! She was the one that people thought was gonna vanish and Cyndi Lauper would still be on top. Madonna is the one trends and artists follow. Bambaataa should get in before the Beasties, people love the Beasties because of License To Ill at first but these guys abandoned Rap music and started doing other stuff and only came back to rap music when Emeniem came out. They wanted nothing to do with there genre of music. Don't get me wrong I like the Beastie's but if you want to put in a pioneer and that's what the Hall usally does than Bambaataa should be in first. Donna Summer hands down should also be in, people complaining about Disco, Disco this Disco that. Rod Stewart did Disco, The Stones did Disco, The Bee Gees were Disco. Donna Summer also survived after Disco and had 3 HUGE hits after Disco. Without Donna Summer there would be no Madonna, Whitney or Mariah. Leonard Cohen should be in, very original, very influential, a very overlooked legend. The Ventures should get in because they influenced just about everyone in the 60s and most in the 70s that picked up a guitar, hell they influenced The Beatles!!! and you can here some of it in their songs. Chic should get in because they influenced the Hip Hop world and hell the first rap record used a Chic sample. The Dave Clark 5 should get in. They were worthy rivals to the Beatles more than any other band. As far as Mellencamp, he will get in and he should but I think he is a fake Springsteen.

Posted by The Truth on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 22:00pm

Donna Summer hands down deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. She became the first black woman ever to win a Grammy for a rock performance. What she accomplished in the late 1970's speaks for itself. She should have been nominated a long time ago. I hope and pray she gets in. She will make her hometown Boston proud!

Posted by Milton on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 22:24pm

Cohen is a shockingly good surprise.

The nominees should have been:

1) Cohen
2) Roxy Music
3) Television
4) The Smiths
5) The Cure
6) Bryan Ferry
7) Warren Zevon

Posted by JOB on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 22:59pm

Vote for the most deserving but overlooked artists for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame at:
http://www.rateitall.com/t-2529-deserving-of-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.aspx
The top 20 at this point are:
1) Rush
2) Yes
3) Deep Purple
4) Genesis
5) Stevie Ray Vaughan
6) Chicago
7) The Ventures
8) Alice Cooper
9) Madonna
10) Duran Duran
11) Pete Townshend (solo) 12) Dire Straits
13) Jethro Tull
14) The Cars
15) Moody Blues
16) Peter Gabriel (solo)
17) Heart
18) Steve Miller
19) The Hollies
20) Pat Benatar

Posted by Garrett on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 23:09pm

well, i wont be watching this year!!!!

Posted by lauren on Saturday, 09.29.07 @ 01:25am

Hate all you want, Madonna is the queen and should have been inducted years ago, NOBODY, NOBODY is better then her. She's the most succesful female of all time ... MADONNA RULEZ, so does CHIC AND DONNA SUMMER !!!

Posted by MKay on Saturday, 09.29.07 @ 02:23am

With the addition of Chic and Donna Summer the RRHOF Disco trilogy will be complete. The Bee Gees are already in.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Saturday, 09.29.07 @ 08:54am

There is no way in hell Bambaataa will get in the Hall before Kraftwerk!!! I'll put money on it!!!

Posted by Joe-Skee on Saturday, 09.29.07 @ 09:01am

out of the 9 nominees I want the 5 to be
Leonard Cohen- folk pioneer, poet, of the 1960's
DC5-British Invasion (automatically get in)
The Ventures- Surf music is an early form of RnR
and they were one of the pioneers
Chic- Damn good musicians, I mean Nile Rodgers
is a funk genius, and they rule ass
Donna Summer- Queen of Disco sexy talanted
wonderful voice

the others are rap artists or just plain suck

i want to see
Steve Miller
Deep Purple
Moody Blues
Chubby Checker
Genesis
ELP
Yes
Doobie Brothers
to name over a hundred

grace the hall of fame

Posted by danny on Saturday, 09.29.07 @ 09:41am

My three votes are Madonna, Beastie Boys, and John Mellencamp of the 2008 Nominees and nobody else.

Also, where is Metallica and Violent Femmes??!!

Somebody need to make up their mind if this is going to be Rock and Roll Hall of Fame or a Music Hall of Fame.

Also need to be in: Genesis, T-Rex, Steve Miller Band, Alice Cooper, Herbie Hancock, America, Meatloaf, Scorpions, Bryan Ferry, Kiss, Journey, Heart, .38 Special, Cheap Trick, Peter Gabriel, Quiet Riot, Toto, Foreigner, The Cars, Def Leppard, INXS, Billy Idol, Duran Duran, Phil Collins, Tears For Fears, and Sting.

Posted by Stephen on Saturday, 09.29.07 @ 10:47am

From paying special interest to the nomination process over the past few years, I've been able to draw several conclusions about the selection process.

If you have any insight or theories of your own, please share.

THINGS THAT WILL WORK IN YOUR FAVOR

1. Being a larger than life figure.
The Rock Hall wants to grab headlines, and will need to fill seats and get ratings from the ceremony. Madonna is an enduring pop culture phenomenon, and can be seen as the home run, marquee talent. Only Michael Jackson is really comparable here.

2. Being critically acclaimed AND commercially successful.
Critics and the masses are two distinct camps. If you have favor with both, your chances are excellent. Beastie Boys have sold very well over the course their career--Licensed to Ill was the top-selling rap album of the 80's, and check the wikipedia entry for its accolades. Paul's Boutique, huge critical favorite. Ill Communication topped the charts.

3. Continued success and longevity.
Just because your band is still together, doesn't mean it's relevant. If you've been in the game for decades, and get radio airplay with artists 20 years younger, you have a great chance. Avoid being labeled a nostalgia act.

4. Survival in the face of changing tastes.
Grunge destroyed hair metal. Bands like U2 and R.E.M. adapted and even elevated their careers.
Survive cultural sea changes.

5. Have friends in high places.
If you're buddies with Jann Wenner, Jon Landau, Bruce Springsteen or Dave Marsh, you will probably get in.

6. Be old.
The selections are made by crusty dinosaurs. Sonic Youth didn't stand a chance with this committee.

7. Affirmative Action.
The nominating committee will always select several black candidates of wildly varying qualifications. Soul, Blues, R&B, Funk clearly have favor over some guitar-based, predominantly white sub-genres.

THINGS THAT WON'T WORK IN YOUR FAVOR

1. Being prog, hard rock or metal.
Clearly these are not committee favorites. Much of the artists classified as such are boring, pretentious, overly indulgent, or polarizing. Still, many others are great. But it doesn't really matter.

2. Lots of filler.
If you have several essential recordings, but lots of misfires, your legacy will be watered down. Concise and impactful careers, and consistenly good artists will be viewed more highly than low-percentage hitters (3 strikeouts for every home run).

3. Confusing history.
Deep Purple probably has 30 current and former members, denoting by Mach I, II, III, IV, V etc. You do you nominate, who do you exclude? Nobody, it makes your head hurt just thinking about it.

4. Being overtly commercial at the expense of your art.
Bon Jovi and Journey, you lowest common denominator power balladeers, you don't stand a chance.

5. Enemies in high places.
Jann Wenner hates the Monkees. So they won't get in. Dave Marsh hates Kiss, so they won't get in either.

Can anyone think of any others?

Posted by Matt. on Saturday, 09.29.07 @ 16:56pm

Jann Wenner and Jon Landau should be canned from the committee for the choices of nominations for the last 3 years. What the fuck are they doing nominating political musicians, rap artists and younger acts. These people have probably never heard of half of the RnR acts that aren't in the
HOF

Also..There is no fucking way that John Mellencamp
or Madonna are getting in to the same place that honored The Beatles, Elvis Presley The Rolling Stones etc... They better get in when I'm dead b/c both acts spew garbage into their music and in their anti-Bush bullshit speeches.They are being considered over better clean cut musicians like Steve Miller, Peter Frampton, and Carole King (solo)

P.S. I used to watch the HOF every year on VH1
but i've boycotted b/c they induct garbage and it's gotten bad reviews from the papers.
Wake up and smell the coffee assholes who think rap is RnR HOF material.

Posted by danny on Saturday, 09.29.07 @ 17:52pm

Seriously this is insane. I know there are alot of bands people think should be in I have a few myself.. But one Band that there is no reason what so ever they shouldnt be in or at least nominated for god sakes... KISS.... Yes they are my favorite band of all time but I dont say this because of that.. I say it cause its the truth.. How many albums do you have to sell how much more influential do you have to be.. Ya I guess the hall is right on this one.. Ya I dont think so.. You had Elvis, The Beatles, and then KISS as far as a pop/rock whatever phenom and I hate Elvis but he owned the public.. So facts are facts call em' commercialized puppets or whatever you would like but when you make movies, lunchboxes, toys, and whatever else you have quite a fanbase.. Which they did and still do.. So as if it isnt already not our Hall of Fame in the first place it never will be until KISS is inducted..

Posted by Chuck on Saturday, 09.29.07 @ 18:40pm

Madonna? In the Rock Hall of Fame? Sorry, but no. One contribution that Madonna has made to the American rock culture is one that few discuss - that she is the apotheosis of modern American culture, which currently rewards triviality and vulgarity moreso than talent and virtuosity. Her true gift is self-promotion, being able to call attention to herself through reinvention. However, when she does capture the attention of her audience, it's obvious that she has nothing really worthy of attention or praise. She is not a talented singer (like Pat Benatar). She is not a talented songwriter (like Chrissie Hynde). She is not a talented dancer (like Janet Jackson). She is not a talented actress (like Annie Lennox). She is not a talented beauty (like Deborah Harry). So much about her is mediocre or average, and yet that rises her to the top of the heap. There is a small gap between creativity and reinvention, but she has not managed to bridge that on a scale worthy of induction into the Rock Hall of Fame.

Posted by ko on Sunday, 09.30.07 @ 11:50am

Where the HELL is Johnny Rivers?

Posted by kathy on Sunday, 09.30.07 @ 18:15pm

Very interesting nomination, and for the first time in a while all of the nominees are actually deserving. Yes, progressive got left out, and Metallica got shafted ("Hit the Lights" was included on the compilation "Metal Massacre" in 1982), but otherwise a very good class.

Predictions:

Madonna
Donna Summer
Chic
John Mellencamp
Afrika Bambaataa

To everyone pissed off that disco and rap are being honored: They are both types of rock. Both have their origins in funk, which is also a type of rock. Disco was the most popular rock form of the 1970s, and rap has been the dominant rock form of the 1990s and 2000s.

I'd say that the biggest problem people have with them is that the primary artists in both cases are black. For worse, radio, the artists themselves, and (especially) fans have created the incorrect thought that rap is a seperate form of music from rock, which it is not. Therefore, only white people can play rock music, according to the theory. This is terrible, but it permeates the thought of music fans. Look at all the "biggest omissions" from the website: all of them are white, "classic rock" artists.

And "JOB": Wow, you really love post-punk. That isn't bad, but it's one subgenre, which is no better than any other. Your opinion shouldn't impact who you think is Hall-worthy.

Posted by John on Sunday, 09.30.07 @ 18:55pm

Like these Nominees or not, this is not just about our favorite Rock band or who Rocks the hardest. Its about the Giants of the Rock & Roll Era! Musician that define not just POPULAR Music but an entire ERA & Generation. Very few artist can define an Era. Also, remember the Rock & Roll Era has had many genres over its 5 decades.

If there was a "Mount Rushmore" Of musical Giants of the Rock & Roll Era, these faces would be chiseled in the rock!

50's Elvis / Little Richard / Chuck Berry
60's Beatles / Aretha Franklin/ Rolling Stones
70's Elton John / Donna Summer / Led Zeppelin
80's Bruce Springsteen / Madonna
90's Nirvana / Alanis Morrisette

I am no Music historian but these Superstars and a few others define their Era. I don't love them all, but they are History .. enough Said

Posted by Randy on Sunday, 09.30.07 @ 22:13pm

Richard Nixon defined an era, if you'll recall.

Posted by William on Sunday, 09.30.07 @ 22:25pm

BOYCOT ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE.... what a joke - I've seen bad lists in the past but Madonna over many greats. Not knocking her talent - but she should be in the Dance Hall of Fame vs. R&R Hall of Fame (oh I forgot - there is none)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298681,00.html

Posted by Robert Log on Sunday, 09.30.07 @ 22:34pm

This list is pathetic

Posted by John on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 06:54am

Madonna before Tina Turner? Where's Chuck Berry?

Pathetic....

Posted by ML on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 08:12am

Madonna?? I thought this was the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. So has she really done more for rock and roll than Ozzy's solo career, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden? The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a joke if they're gonna induct hip hop stars and rappers. They should have their own hall of fame.

Posted by The Kid on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 08:35am

John, how the hell do you make this into a race issue?

"I'd say that the biggest problem people have with them is that the primary artists in both cases are black."

That's rediculous. And if rap is rock and disco is rock and everything is rock then why isn't it just the Music Hall of Fame? And why aren't the rap CDs thrown in with the rock CDs at the music store? Rap is not rock. Rock and roll is a genre just like rap. And I don't know who told you rap dominated in the 1990's and 2000.

Posted by The Kid on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 08:45am

For the past few years this list has been a joke. What about Rush, Tina Turner (Proud Mary), Metallica...

Posted by scuba on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 08:52am

Like these 2008 Nominees or not, this is not just about our favorite Rock band or who Rocks the hardest. Its about the Giants of the Rock & Roll Era! Musician that define not just POPULAR Music but an entire ERA & Generation. Very few artist can define an Era. Also, remember the Rock & Roll Era has had many Sub-genres over its 5 decades.

If there was a "Mount Rushmore" Of musical Giants of the Rock & Roll Era, these faces would be chiseled in the rock!

50's Elvis / Little Richard / Chuck Berry
60's Beatles / Aretha Franklin/ Rolling Stones
70's Elton John / Donna Summer / Led Zeppelin/
80's Bruce Springsteen / Madonna/ Tina Turner
90's Nirvana / Alanis Morrisette/ others?

I am not a Music historian but , These Superstars along with a few others out there define their Era. I don't love them all, but they are our morden music History.. enough Said!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_music_genres

Posted by Randy on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 09:47am

ML: "Where's Chuck Berry? Pathetic..."

Um, inducted 21 years ago?

Randy: "70's Elton John / Donna Summer / Led Zeppelin/
80's Bruce Springsteen / Madonna/ Tina Turner
90's Nirvana / Alanis Morrisette/ others?"

If you're picking someone to define the '70s, I'd think the Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, and maybe even the Bee Gees should go ahead of Donna Summer. '80s: How about U2 instead of Tina Turner? '90s: How did you come up with Alanis? Try RHCP and maybe Pearl Jam.

Posted by A-Killa on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 09:56am

I agree. The 90's was more of an alternative rock era with influential bands like Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, RHCP, and others.

Posted by The Kid on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 10:03am

I find this a very sad day. I do not believe that rappers, or entertainers such as Madonna should be in the Hall of Fame. What has this come to? It should be people like Yes, Rush, Metallica, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Dream Theater and many more. The Beastie boys definitely do not belong. If it continues like this, the hall of fame will be nothing to me but a disappointment and just one more entity that has subjected itself to the main stream media.

Posted by Chris on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 10:11am

how i'd like it to look:

50's: Presley/Berry/Cash
60's: Beach Boys/Kinks/Rolling Stones
70's: Bowie/Buzzcocks/Jam
80's: Smiths/Soundgarden/R.E.M.
90's: Nirvana/Oasis/Prodigy
00's: Kaiser Chiefs/Arctic Monkeys/Kasabian

Posted by liam on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 10:16am

You have got to be kidding!!! Chic and the Beastie Boys are not rock. They are Disco and Rap. Put them in there respective places out of the catagory of rock you idiots!!!! I always thought that Rolling Stone magazine has gotten lame and P.C. this confirms it. That rag hasn't been any good since the mid 80's. BOYCOTT IT !! let the so called rap "Artists" get there own hall of shame

Posted by Bobcat on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 12:45pm

I completely understand the need for the committee to start inducting grossly overlooked artists from the 50's, 60's and 70's, but you also can't ignore the newer generation of 80's artists either; there needs to be some sort of balance. They could induct 6 per year, with 3 of them being first-year eligibles or 80's backlogs, and the other 3 being 50's, 60's or 70's backlogs.

I also believe (and correct me if I'm wrong) that one of the main reasons for the induction of only five per year is because of the televised ceremony. They could induct 10 per year, but would they have any interest in extending it to 3 or 4 more hours? I doubt it.

Posted by Antonio on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 14:43pm

why are the beastie boy being nominated to in the rock in roll hall of fame when they sing rap not rock music, the one group that sould be in the hall of fame are the moody blues since they been around for over forty years and sold over 200 million album world wide.

Posted by Gilbert on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 15:09pm

Well, the ceremony isn't televised anymore (it's streamed on AOL) so I doubt it's that. If anything, not being televised has allowed artists who would have never been nominated to be nominated this year.

But yes, there needs to be more artists inducted every year, at least 7 or 8. There is a definite backlog of artists right now, and only inducting five a year makes it longer every year.

An interesting option would have the fans getting some sort of vote, but that would probably backfire.

Posted by John on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 15:14pm

Wait... the ceremony isn't being televised this year? Was this fairly recent news?

Posted by Antonio on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 15:19pm

Never mind - it's on VH1 Classic.

I just remembered it being taken off of regular VH1 last year and mistakenly thought that it wasn't being shown at all.

But the VH1 Classic program is live, while the VH1 program was taped, so usually VH1 cut the program down to the most famous artists getting all the airtime, while less famous ones got shafted.

Posted by John on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 15:25pm

Let's see, since this is obviously the Rolling Stone Hall of Fame, Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, and Kelly Clarkson should get in before Rory Gallagher, Deep Purple, Johnny Winter, SRV. Hey, if Ozzy wasn't a part of Black Sabbath, Tony Iommi would never be there either. What a load of garbage. Madonna? Beastie Boys? Please. Talent in music is not played on the radio or Top 40 and alot of talent will never be in the Hall!

Posted by J Brightwell on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 15:30pm

<<50's Elvis / Little Richard / Chuck Berry
60's Beatles / Aretha Franklin/ Rolling Stones
70's Elton John / Donna Summer / Led Zeppelin/
80's Bruce Springsteen / Madonna/ Tina Turner
90's Nirvana / Alanis Morrisette/ others?>>

Like I said in my post. I don't claim to be an expert in music history. But, You are missing the point. I am sure there are many missing artist on that list. However the point is that the artist we are all discussing are just as worthy, if not more worthy than these mega Rock band that most people are angry about the Hall omitting.

Posted by Randy on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 15:33pm

This is just sad...can they induct only the Beastie Boys, and forget everyone else? No one else even deserves it. Madonna, Chic, Mellencamp? Come on.

Posted by Andy on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 16:38pm

Wenner has been bought and paid for hi misdeeds.

Posted by Wenner is on the take on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 17:18pm

As coming into wanting to be a music journalist it freakin ticks me off that soooo many goood I mean good musicians and bands have been thrown under the bus cause of what capitalism. I think everyone should protest half of that committee since most of them work for rolling stone or used to work there. I am sicken to know fellow journalists and critics who have been around all this time are coming up with this nomination process. I mean I get its 25 yrs but come on NO Heart, NO Styx, NO RUSH. NO Prog or Hard Rock. They were major major influences. Look how long it took southern rock and punk to get in. Hell look how long it took Sabbath who is the only heavy metal band to make it. They should at least put in Blue Cheer they were the ones who started bands Like Yes, Genesis and Rush into the prog-rock scene. I love all three of those bands. Heck the rock honors people did some justice this last year. But No Heart as the critics called them the Female Led Zepplin of the 70's. Yeah I know my stuff but I think everyone should flood these guys with e-mails. I mean some of the singer-songwriters like Carole King and Jim Croce and Carly Simon for pete's sake haven't been inducted. Its just now they are going to nominate again The Ventures and Dave Clark Five. I think something should be done because I have to agree with everyone on here. The music is for the people given to the people by musicians who came into this game years ago. They put their heart and soul in this most of them still going strong after all these years and this is the thanks that they get. Nothing but getting spit on and tossed aside because some people don't want to influence the younger and future generations. I was influenced by my parents which most of the bands listed aren't inducted. It saddens me. It really does. Just because they want some disposable or not even lack-luster bands or artists. I was happy to see REM get inducted last year with Patti Smith because they are both sort of indie type of rock like Sonic Youth who I think will always get passed by unlike Nirvana. I like diversity but this year's list the only one I give some credit is Dave Clark Five, The Ventures, and John Mellencamp. Ohhh I will love to see John Mellencamp. He might say something cause I know he will I hope so at least. I think its crap and I feel that we should all take a stand.

Posted by Chani on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 19:16pm

Madonna? Chic? What a disgrace. Wonder how much head Madonna had to give to get the nod. Oh, wait. She's a "genius." I forgot. Mellencamp is deserving enough, but *just* so. He is a pretty talented songwriter and performer. Hey, he even plays his own instruments and doesn't lip synch! How quaint! Rush not being nominated is just ridiculous. And Linda Ronstadt is off the hook with talent. Soon, the R&R HOF will be so diluted it will have absolutely no significance whatsoever. I'm hoping when my favorite band (Pearl Jam) comes up for nomination (I would think!) it will actually mean something. Not that the artists suit everyone's taste, but undeniable talent is what should be recognized, rather than record sales and insider cronyism.

Posted by EYG on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 19:40pm

The people that made these nominations don't know a rock from a roll!!! Cohen is the only possible writer that should be allowed near the hall. He'd tell you himself, however, that his writing never crossed into rock 'n roll. I've lost all respect for the r 'n r hof. None of the nominees are anywhere close to being worthy, NONE!!! madonna, beasties and the rest; they just out and out SUCK!!! One last comment: The nominating committee should all get "THIRTY DAYS IN THE HOLE!"

Posted by humblepie on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 21:13pm

no.1 dc5 maybe ventures a tobbi szar vagy marhasag

Posted by goodman on Tuesday, 10.2.07 @ 01:10am

How about putting these people in the Hall of Fame where they belong.

The Moody Blues, Hall & Oates, J Geils Band, Carly Simon, Linda Ronstadt, Carole King,
Leon Russell, Glen Campbell, Tina Turner, Dionne Warwick, the Spinners, Chubby Checker,
John Fogerty, Lou Reed, Ringo Starr, Steve Winwood, Steve Miller, The Guess Who, Grand Funk Railroad, Tom Jones, The Hollies, The Turtles, Three Dog Night and Jeff Beck

Posted by StarMan on Tuesday, 10.2.07 @ 07:36am

From the "I Called It" department, I posted this on the 2008 prediction thread:

"The only thing is, the Rock Hall typically comes up with at least one out-of-left-field nomination that nobody sees coming...What you need to do is randomly pick one artist who's been eligible for at least 15 years and never been nominated. The Association or Peter & Gordon or somebody like that, except the Rock Hall will come up with somebody more obscure than that."

And the answer is... the Ventures!

Posted by A-Killa on Tuesday, 10.2.07 @ 08:42am

what the hell . . . no Gram Parsons?!?!?! . . . I mean c'mon . . . but out of these nine, I'd have to go with
1. Leonard Cohen
2. Afrika Bambaataa
3. Madonna
4. Dave Clark Five
5. The Ventures

Posted by Robert Bock on Tuesday, 10.2.07 @ 09:48am

READ THIS "What is the Rock & Roll Hall ???

You all make some very valid points. The biggest issue here stem from the title "Rock & Roll" Hall. If they would clarify their meaning of "Rock & Roll" then maybe we wouldn't be having all these misconceptions.

What I have come to understand about their meaning of "ROCK & ROLL" is that they are referring to an Era of new modern music. The name Rock & Roll music came about back in the 50's with acts like Elvis. This sound was so different from anything that was played in the past 100 years (Classical Era), that people started calling it a New Era in contemporary music, thus the "Rock & Roll ERA" was born. From there on anything that followed this new form of music was dubbed "Music from the Rock & Roll Era." This new sound has evolved and branched out to many different styles with each passing decade. Whether it was Soul, Punk, Folk, Dance, Alternative, Pop, Arena Rock or Techo, it is all music that evolved from this new sound and this new era in popular music, the "Rock & Roll Era."

"The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" inducts acts from a very diverse music mix in the evolution of this newly formed "Rock & Roll Era" in music that started in the 50's. With this in mind, it all makes perfect sense?

Posted by Randy on Tuesday, 10.2.07 @ 21:07pm

I find it strangely funny that I'm actually reading complaints about Madonna's inclusion in the Hall of Fame. I understand the gripes about the definition of "Rock & Roll," but if anyone hasn't noticed the "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" is not solely defined by style of music. It celebrates those relevant to music in the modern era of recording.

We are in an eligability era of music where image has became integrated into music moreso than any time before. It did exist. The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show, Elvis in his movies, and yes, bands playing live were used before. Should The Beatles be excluded because they were attractive and the girls were quite smitten (which added to their popularity).

If it's a question of Madonna's music relevancy then it's a failed argument. In the realm of pop/dance music, she is hailed universally. If you don't like the genre she prescribes to then that's an issue of taste. It does not mean that she "sucks" or deserves to not be included for her contributions to the modern era of music.

Let's just be honest, anything other than the title of "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" would sound stupid. It has a nice ring to it, but it does not mean it's limited to the uninclusive definition of "Rock & Roll" that many prescribe to.

Posted by Matheus on Wednesday, 10.3.07 @ 10:52am

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? This proves once again that The Rock-n-Roll Hall is full of no music knowing morons.

WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!

Posted by Sean Mahoney on Thursday, 10.4.07 @ 03:43am

I have an interesting thing to say.
Steve Miller who I think is the good version of John Mellencamp(whom i detest), has never been on the final nomination list, but Mellencamp is on the ballot for the 3rd time. When Mellencamp was growing up in his "small town" Steve Miller
had already released "Livin in the U,S.A"
And when Mellencamp's debut came out in 1976.
Steve Miller's "The Joker" was 3 years old.
It shows the RNR "hall of shame" are ignoring the real veterans and just inducting political and rap musicians

Posted by anyomous on Thursday, 10.4.07 @ 06:01am

Here we go:
1. Leonard Cohen
2. Jethro Tull
3. Gram Parsons
4. The Zombies
5. The Turtles

there . . . simple, classic. how hard is that?!?!?!

Posted by Robert Bock on Thursday, 10.4.07 @ 08:31am

anyomous: You're not the only person who feels that Steve Miller should be inducted. I also think he's been snubbed. But I don't see the comparison between him and Mellancamp; they're two separate artists. Also I doubt that Mellancamp's nomination has anything to do with his politics.

Robert: What exactly is the argument for the Turtles? Are they really more deserving than the Dave Clark Five?

Posted by A-Killa on Thursday, 10.4.07 @ 09:03am

all i gotta say, its ashame dj fontana wasnt nominated.he was elvis presleys drummer from 1955-1968. played on hound dog,jailhouse rock, heartbreak hotel, just to name a few.
what are these people thinking.
a rock and roll pioneer overlooked

Posted by jesse on Thursday, 10.4.07 @ 12:42pm

Posted by jesse on Thursday, 10.4.07 @ 12:43pm

DJ Fontana would be considered for the "Sideman" category, which is a seperate category. Sidemen are inducted in a different way, more like the Veterans Commission in Baseball.

Posted by John on Thursday, 10.4.07 @ 13:54pm

CHIC-Come ON! an you past over the Runaways. The VENTURES! COME ON! Who makes this list anyway!

Posted by Laurie on Friday, 10.5.07 @ 06:54am

Rush
Yes
Deep Purple
Alice Cooper
AC/ DC
Kiss
OZZY
Ect Ect..

They are all Great Choices, However, the only Criticism about some Heavy Medal and Arena Rock Bands back in the 70's and early 80's was that Most all mimic each other. Although they can Rock like nobody else, there wasn't much originality among them. Each band just tired to outdo the other. Some acts even tried to stand out by using crazy customs and using blood and animal parts on stage in order to seem original. This all repeated itself again in the late 80's with Hair bands.

Maybe the "Hall" is looking for more Originality and not so much who can Rock the hardest.??

In all Fairness, If true, That would explain some of its 2008 choices. Most of them were the 1st to do what they did.

Posted by Joe on Friday, 10.5.07 @ 08:21am

AC/DC is already in....They were inducted in 2003 with The Police, Elvis Costello, The Clash, and Rightous Brothers.

Posted by Kyle on Friday, 10.5.07 @ 12:24pm

There is one name many people forgot to mention in their list of artists not in the RNR HOF
and that is Jim Croce. Even though his life was
tragically cut short, his music is unforgettable
Songs like "Leroy Brown", "I've Got a Name"
and "I'd Like to Say I Love You in a Song"
are classics. It's a damn shame that a musician of his talent is being ignored snubbed, and pushed to the side to make way for acts that are either rap or younger bands

Posted by anyomous on Friday, 10.5.07 @ 17:35pm

I nominate Rufus and Chaka Khan.

Posted by DaeDae on Sunday, 10.7.07 @ 07:24am

Jeezus. Somebody needs to define "rock and roll" around here. When the hell did disco, pop and hip-hop become rock?

Posted by Joboo on Sunday, 10.7.07 @ 19:53pm

Madonna is, by far, the most deserving of this year's slate. Love her or hate her, her impact on music the past 25 years has been enormous.

And, for the genre griping.....if the Supremes, are in (hardly "rock" sounding to me), then why shouldn't Donna Summer and Madonna, the leaders of 70s and 80s popular music, be in?

I think that some just like to complain about artists that they don't personally like.

Posted by Matt on Monday, 10.8.07 @ 13:46pm

I would select Randy Newman, John Fogerty, Johnny Winter, Albert King, Steve Winwood, George Clinton, Dr. John, Canned heat, Mitch Ryder, Steppenwolf, Joe Cocker, Billy Preston, Link Wray and The Kingsmen before ANY of this year's nominees. I have been playing rock and roll since 1963. Adding Madonna is like adding Coca-Cola to the FDA food pyramid.

Posted by jim downing on Monday, 10.8.07 @ 14:25pm

Amen!
I'd like to enter a class-action suit to force the removal of the term "Rock n Roll" from the music Hall.
Clearly the HOF board have no knowledge of the term or the lifestyle...I don't care how their antiquated credentials read!!! Nominating Disco Donna is proof. Can you imagine her performing.."Oooo love-to-love you baaaby..." Then throwing up her ROCK FIST and screechin' 'ROCK N ROLLLLLL?" NO, I don't think so....I apologize for the mental image.

Posted by Suez on Tuesday, 10.9.07 @ 00:26am

No wonder the Hall is unbalanced and about to COME TUMBLIN' in to the Lake of Disco doo doo...
They forgot to lay in a good foundation of ROCK'n ROLL SOUL! What about the fore-father's of actual ROCK...These guys started it all!

How can they omit Hard ROCK'S Royalty?
GRAND FUNK RAILROAD
Yes
Rush
B.O.C.
Deep Purple
Alice Cooper
Sooo many, many others!

Come on...We need a Hard Rock Museum. Voted by the people, of the people and for the people....sound familiar?

Posted by Cruizinsuezin on Tuesday, 10.9.07 @ 01:09am

Could someone please explain what ANY of these inductees have to do with rock n' roll? Whoever is in charge of selecting has totally missed the boat and I no longer will give a flying f#$k about the Hall of Fame. It's obvious that the deliberate snubs of true rock artists who rightfully deserve a spot will continue well into the future. Ask yourself this: when was the last time you heard an Afrika Bambaataa song?...hmmmmm? If it were up to me, this is who would get in this year:

Deep Purple
Rush
J.Geils Band
Alice Cooper
Jim Croce

The Hall of Fame can kiss my ass!..Rock On!!

Posted by DJ on Tuesday, 10.9.07 @ 21:03pm

How are motley crue not nominated? Over 40 million records sold not good enough. Who has sold more here other then the beastie boys and Madonna. They were one the biggest bands in the eighties and still sell out arenas today. So being influential and selling a lot of albums doesn't matter. The media doesn't like them so they don't get nominated. This is why I have no respect for the rock n' roll hall of fame.

Posted by jason hasbrouck on Tuesday, 10.9.07 @ 23:48pm

"How are motley crue not nominated? Over 40 million records sold not good enough. Who has sold more here other then the beastie boys and Madonna."-jason hasbrouck

Let's see...Metallica, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Iron Maiden, Supertramp, and several others currently eligible for induction as well as several who will be eligible in the future but already meet your lax and irrational requirements. In fact, as it turns out, if record sales have any bearing on musical relevance(they don't, but that's the point of my satire) Motley Crue is last in line behind Michael Jackson, Barbra Streisand, Duran Duran, and Green Day.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 10.10.07 @ 02:46am

So, if Madonna is off the list, let's strip out all the inductees that are in subgenres of rock (including pop, dance, R&B, etc.):

Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
The Supremes
Stevie Wonder
Simon & Garfunkel
Ruth Brown
Bob Marley
Rod Stewart
Al Green
Martha & The Vandellas
Gladys Knight & The Pips
The Shirelles
The Bee Gees
The Jackson Five
Parliament/Funkedelic
The Mamas & The Papas
Santana
Michael Jackson
Isaac Hayes
The Righteous Brothers
Prince
Grandmaster Falsh & The Furious Five
The Ronettes

According to Princeton University's dictionary, "rock a generic term for the range of styles that evolved out of rock'n'roll."

Madonna, Prince, etc....even though they might not be your personal favorites, have influenced the rock era more than many of the artists being mentioned here, and are most deserving of induction.

- Matt

Posted by Matt on Wednesday, 10.10.07 @ 11:52am

My Top 5...

John Mellencamp
Donna Summer
Leonard Cohen
The Ventures
Madonna

Out of the 2 mega superstars ladies Madonna /or Donna Summer ..I would Pick Donna due to her more edgy Rock songs and her Grammy win for "Best Rock Female 1980"

Posted by Randy on Monday, 10.15.07 @ 21:17pm

It's too bad that the Ventures don't get the credit they deserve. Just because the younger generation doesn't really know who they are doesn't mean they aren't deserving. They were arguably the fathers of the distorted Guitar, becoming the first band to lay down a true fuzz guitar track, and became the first band to use a fuzz pedal.

Other artists who said they had been influenced by the Ventures included Gene Simmons, Elton John, George Harrison, Jimmy Page, Jeff Baxter, Joe Perry and Tom Hamilton of Aerosmith, and Joe Walsh of the Eagles to name some.

Posted by Faceplant on Tuesday, 10.16.07 @ 01:47am

my Pics, The 2008 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame:

The Ventures
Donna Summer
The Dave Clark Five
John Mellencamp
Leonard Cohen

Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 10.16.07 @ 19:49pm

What about Steppenwolf and Moody blues in the hall of fame.

Posted by Bob Dilldine on Thursday, 10.18.07 @ 11:37am

If Rolling Stone mag is a influence on the choices for the hall of fame is Britney next. Check out Uncut and Mojo for rock and roll.

Posted by Bob Dilldine on Thursday, 10.18.07 @ 11:47am

AS A 60ISH MAN WHO GREW UP HEARING REAL ROCK AND ROLL, THE VENTURES WHOULD HAVE TO BE THE #1 CHOICE. THEY DID MORE FOR INSTRUMENTAL ROCK AND MUSIC IN GENERAL THAN ANYONE ELSE. THEY INFLUENCED A WHOLE LEGION OF GUITARISTS; ASK GENE SIMMONS; GEORGE HARRISON, JEFF BAXTER AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO WERE INSPIRED BY THEM. YOUR CHOICES ARE YOUR OWN, BUT LET COMMON SENSE PREVAIL

Posted by MBZMAN on Thursday, 10.18.07 @ 17:22pm

WTF DUDE modona ait even rock its tecno.... TECNO this is the ROCK N ROLL HALL OF FAME if disco and tecno hall of fame come in town then let her go for it but i say its blastphamy to let any one who dont play a guitar or drums in to the hall of fame.....im sory for yellin

Posted by byron damn bales on Friday, 10.19.07 @ 22:41pm

On what planet is Madonna considered "techno"?

Posted by William on Saturday, 10.20.07 @ 01:14am

"blastphamy to let any one who dont play a guitar or drums in to the hall of fame"

so we should cut off any singers, but allow their bands/backing bands in?

that would also mean most rap groups, producers and the Velvet Underground (elec violas) would be kicked out/not allowed in

Posted by liam on Saturday, 10.20.07 @ 06:41am

Where's X? Gimme a break! Isn't Night Ranger in line some where? There's something wrong!

Posted by Aaron Edmundson on Tuesday, 10.23.07 @ 23:45pm

Again, I have no trouble with the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame's selections year after year. They seem to choose acts based on 1.)record sales and 2.) likability with the upper class and/or music listeners who have limited musical tastes (whether the artist merits this "honor" or not).

I love C.H.I.C. Nile Rodgers/ Bernard Edwards were a class act and continue to inspire others musically. They are not Rock 'N Roll. Madonna is fair...and she is NOT Rock 'N Roll. The Beastie Boys? The Ventures? Dave Clark Five? Donna Summer? She is Disco/Dance/Pop. I am a fan of hers too but her "sound" is due in part to her brilliant(then) production team of Mororder/Bellotte(?).

Remember, Jann Werner (?) and a cadre of his wealthy, out-of-touch gang are running this show.

Posted by Dusty on Wednesday, 10.24.07 @ 00:16am

Alright, here's my complete queue of elligible artists that I feel deserve enshrinement. Anyone not listed either fell short of my semi-objective criteria (influence, influence, influence) or I think they're just abysmal and don't deserve a page at FRH.

Oh, and I'd be interested to hear thoughts on what I'm (supposedly) missing, my ranking or even better YOUR complete list.

The Queue

1. Brian Eno
2. The Stooges
3. Kraftwerk
4. Joy Division
5. Leonard Cohen
6. Sonic Youth
7. The Cure
8. Nick Drake
9. T. Rex
10. The Replacements

11. Depeche Mode
12. Beastie Boys
13. Afrika Bambaataa
14. Metallica
15. Hüsker Dü
16. The Fall
17. Roxy Music
18. The Jam
19. Gang Of Four
20. Black Flag

21. King Crimson
22. Tom Waits
23. The Marvelettes
24. Genesis
25. Love
26. Talk Talk
27. The Cars
28. The Buzzcocks
29. Television
30. The Monkees

31. Captain Beefheart
32. Echo and the Bunnymen
33. The Modern Lovers
34. Big Star
35. Mission Of Burma
36. Cocteau Twins
37. Jimmy Cliff
38. The Specials
39. Violent Femmes
40. The Crystals/Darlene Love
41. The Zombies
42. Tim Buckley

Posted by Casper on Friday, 10.26.07 @ 02:31am

Oops. Missed Madge probably because she's the only nominee this year that I'm 100% will be inducted. I'd place her just after Hüsker Dü if you must know.

Posted by Casper on Friday, 10.26.07 @ 02:34am

Meat Puppets as well. 25-ish.

Posted by Casper on Friday, 10.26.07 @ 02:36am

Meant to throw New Order into the mix. If I had my way it'd be a ballot choice of Joy Division/New Order as I really see the latter as the logical Curtis-less progression of the band.

Posted by Casper on Friday, 10.26.07 @ 02:38am

That list is funny. The Monkees!? But, no Rush or Moody Blues - LOL, LOL...you are not to be taken seriously.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 10.26.07 @ 03:27am

maybe you should have put the cocteau twins above Echo & the Bunnymen. they're about the same in my eyes, but the twins were one of the first shoegazers, which cranks the up quite a bit.

Posted by liam on Friday, 10.26.07 @ 06:04am

I'm also unaware of MAdness' induction (if there was one), but if they weren't they'd go between 14 and 19

Posted by liam on Friday, 10.26.07 @ 06:06am

K, Devo wasn't on my list either. Just posting a reminder for myself. ;)

Posted by Casper on Friday, 10.26.07 @ 23:47pm

Beasties-Opened the doors to not only white rappers, but rappers who were allowed to humorous, but also take themselves seriously.
Madonna-Pop Queen for generations.
Chic-disco band that wrote great songs with good melody.
John Mellencamp-Songwriter for America.
Dave Clark Five-I got nothin.

Posted by SSR on Saturday, 10.27.07 @ 10:56am

Donna Summer ??, The original "Pop Queen" known around the world for her many 70's & 80's Pop/dance hits and her many musical styles including Rock. 4 decades of music and still filling concert halls globally!

Not many female artist alive today that have those accomplishments...

Posted by Harry on Saturday, 10.27.07 @ 11:49am

Metallica left off the list of nominees and Chic included what a bunch of crap!!!! But then I guess the hall is biased against Heavy Metal. Only 3 Metal bands are in (Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and AC/DC) 4 if you count Van Halen. Aerosmith might have been Metal in the 70's but now they're a pop rock joke. They might as well change the name to The Pop Music Hall of Fame. The only act nominated this year that I would vote for is The Ventures

Posted by karl on Sunday, 10.28.07 @ 02:29am

I can't believe they keep overlooking the obvious. They act as if the 70's never existed....and the only artists from the 80's they remember are the mega stars (Michael Jackson, Madonna, etc) or Punk/New Wave acts. Here's a short list...with
brief explanations WHY....

Yes
Helped define "Prog Rock", as well as set a standard for live performance, utilizing elaborate stage sets, lighting, scenery, and lasers before anyone else was doing it.

Genesis
Same as Yes, only with more "art" in the presentation. Also, they went from "prog" to mainstream pop/rock with the greatest of ease, translating into a completely different era.

Chicago
They are 2nd most successful American band in history (Beach Boys are first). It's shameful they haven't even been nominated yet. What an oversight.

Neil Diamond
A living legend...overlooked and passed by. Again, shameful.

Grand Funk Railroad
Innovative and a great influence on many, many bands who followed them.

Moody Blues
Set the stage for art rock and progressive rock with the release of "Days Of Future Past". Awesome songwriting and innovative recordings, paving the way for many artists who followed in their footsteps. After massive initial success through the late 60's - 70's, had a resurgence through the 80's and 90's with great hits on the charts and incredible sold-out tours. Hall Of Famers for sure.

Barry Manilow
Soft rock, yes, but this guy created a new kind of ballad that paved the way for many rock bands to score #1 hits with "power ballads". This is still going on today, and Barry is the grand daddy of the form. They'll never induct him, but this is the #1 Adult Contemporary artist of all time.

Jeff Lynne (Producer)
Although ELO may never get nominated, they need to put it's creator/leader Jeff Lynne into the Hall of Fame for his innovations...and genius, if you like...based on his production work for ELO, himself, and many other artists including The Beatles, Traveling Wilburys, Tom Petty, George Harrison, Paul McCartney, etc. Jeff has earned his place in The Hall.

Ringo Starr
Sure, they'll induct the great Motown, Philly, and Muscle Shoals sidemen, but because of his massive celebrity and full-fledge status in The Beatles, overlook Ringo - who is more responsible for the way rock drums are played today than anyone else on the planet. Before Ringo started smacking "2" and "4" decisively, we were immune to corny surf beats, pseudo jazz grooves, and hillbilly hacking on rock 'n roll records. The Rock Hall should recognize Ringo for his innovative drumming. No drummer in the rock era deserves this recognition more.

Metallica
Perhaps the most successful heavy metal band of all time. HOW could they NOT induct these guys?

T. Rex
Innovative, stylistic, unique, and important. Marc Bolan and company basically invented "glam", and their influence could be felt for decades.

Wings
One of the most successful groups of the 70's, but completely overshadowed by The Beatles. When they inducted Paul as a solo artist, they were probably figuring Wings into the equation as well - but that mindset betrays Paul's important collaborators: wife Linda and the underrated Denny Laine...as well as the other members of Wings, who should be recognized simply for the massive success they achieved during their era.

B-52s
Punk/Pop innovation. Without them, MANY things that followed would never have happened.

The Cars
Another group of Punk/Pop innovators. Thanks to The Cars we were treated to an accessible form of Punk called "New Wave".

Journey
One of the greatest, most successful "powerpop" bands of the 70's/80's...but far more, great songwriters, performers, and recording artists. The sheer virtuosity of Steve Perry's lead vocals, along with the musicianship of Neal Schon, Ross Valory, Steve Smith, Gregg Rollie, and (later) Jonathan Cain, should make the induction of Journey a "given". Not so, I guess....

Styx
One of the top-selling and most important bands of their era. They could be heavy rock....art rock....soft....VERY soft...and just about everything in between. Styx should definitely be recognized.

KISS
Innovators of "gimmick rock", influencing many artists and bands who followed them. Their songs weren't bad either...and their popularity speaks for itself. KISS were as important to "Arena Rock" as The Sex Pistols were to "Punk".

Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
Innovative for fusing styles while staying contemporary and radio-worthy. Another group who influenced MANY bands who were to follow them.

Todd Rundgren
An extremely creative, innovative, and talented performer, musician, songwriter, producer of his era. Like Neil Diamond, Rundgren is yet another living legend who has been completely overlooked by the Hall of Fame.

Cat Stevens
Although he's been nominated several times, he's been blackballed from actual induction because he's controversial...a converted Muslim who dropped out of the music business at the height of his success. In actual fact, Cat's career was waning at the time of his departure, but his songs and recordings make a definitive soundtrack for the 1970's. This is a true artist who deserves to be recognized for some of the most memorable songs of an era.

Alice Cooper
I'm of the feeling that Alice has been left out because "Alice Cooper" was originally a band with a lead singer, Vince Furnier, who became "Alice" after the band's initial success. Does the Hall induct the band or the MAN? Whatever the case, by keeping him (or them) out, they're overlooking innovation, great recordings, and a wildly successful live act transcending multiple eras.

Peter Frampton
Not only should Peter be recognized for his massive chart-topping success in the 70's, it should be pointed out that he was the first mainstream rock guitarist to have success breaking out of the typical "blues scale" or pentatonic way of playing rock solos, incorporating major scale based jazz and classical licks into his playing, making his guitar solos (both with Humble Pie and as a solo artist) some of the most memorable in history. In addition, Peter (along with Joe Walsh) put the "talkbox" on the map with the very successful "Do You Feel Like We Do" from his multi-platinum "Frampton Comes Alive".

This list could go on and on...but you get the idea. They're already jumping straight into the "rap" era....so many of these great artists from the 60's/70's/80's are going to be overlooked for a long, long time.

Posted by Vince S. on Friday, 11.2.07 @ 09:54am

Interesting list....so you've obviously never listened to The Replacements then.

And Tom Petty is already in the Hall Of Fame.

Posted by Casper on Friday, 11.2.07 @ 13:11pm

STOOGES! STOOGES! STOOGES!

Not that Iggy or anyone cares, but still. They're too fuckin' good.

Posted by b on Friday, 11.2.07 @ 15:37pm

The RR HoF has again missed the opportunity to nominate (the original) MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA (1971-1973). This powerhouse progressive group of ass kickers came on the scene like a lightning bolt and influcenced musicians from Jeff Beck to Santana and Journey. And a whole host of others. Its a pity that musicians of this monster calliber are ignored by the Hall of Fame voters for lesser acts whose contributions pale in comparison. Many of us fans who saw this group had a life changing experience in music that should be recognized and honored in the RR Hof.

Posted by Phil on Friday, 11.2.07 @ 22:16pm

I think New Kids On The Block should be inducted. Without them there'd be no NSYNC or Backstreet Boys.

Posted by Kim on Monday, 11.5.07 @ 13:41pm

"I think New Kids On The Block should be inducted. Without them there'd be no NSYNC or Backstreet Boys." - Kim

Don't forget Boys-2-Men, O-Town, 98 Degrees, S-Club 7 and Hanna Montana too!
Thank you Kim for this fine presentaion on why INFLUENCE cannot stand alone (with Innovation)as the gatekeepers of a HOF; for it is a fickle beast.

Posted by shawn on Monday, 11.5.07 @ 13:49pm

"Don't forget Boys-2-Men, O-Town, 98 Degrees, S-Club 7 and Hanna Montana too!
Thank you Kim for this fine presentaion on why INFLUENCE cannot stand alone (with Innovation)as the gatekeepers of a HOF; for it is a fickle beast."

I hope all of them get inducted. Hannah Montana is inspiring Beatlelike audiences. Definitely Boys2Men because they had several of the biggest hits of the 90's. Remember End of the Road? How about I'll Make Love To You? Great important songs. 98 Degrees definitely if only because of Nick Lachey. I'm sure Nick Lachey will be inducted and I'll cheer him on!

Posted by Kim on Monday, 11.5.07 @ 14:02pm

To all who say this one or that one should be inducted, don't forget the 25 year rule.

Posted by m on Wednesday, 11.7.07 @ 08:10am

It has been a very long time, but FINALLY, America is getting over discophobia!

Donna Summer is a pioneer in dance music and should definetly get inducted. David Bowie, who also worked with Niles Rodgers of Chic, has reportedly said, amongst others such as Roxy Music, Blondie, & the Human League, that Donna Summer's hits helped change music.

Posted by Harry on Saturday, 11.10.07 @ 15:43pm

Fuck the rock hall those cocksuckers. How the fuck do you snumb metallica? 100 million fucking records world wide and your going to induct loser acts like the beasty boys and people no one's ever heard of. Bunch of fucking morons

Posted by Eric on Monday, 11.12.07 @ 16:09pm

I'm sure it doesn't have ANYTHING to do with the fact that Kill 'Em All came out in '83, thus making the 25 year mark 2008. How is it that people can theoretically come to the same conclusions as I do but be completely wrong in doing so? It's enough to make me second-guess my support of Metallica in the first place.

Posted by William on Monday, 11.12.07 @ 16:19pm

When is Future Rock Hall making their induction predictions?

Posted by David on Wednesday, 11.14.07 @ 09:13am

This is the rock and roll hall of fame and should induct rock artist. Maybe Madonna has done something rock like so yea let her in but come on with Donna Summer. Maybe they should make a Rap hall of fame and have guys like Run DMC and the Beasties in there. Beaties have only made a handfull of albums in their life and none of them are good enough to get into the hall. Donna Summer and Chic are not rock and John Mellencamp is OK but really does he deserve to get in while others don't. I was in high school in the 80's and we all talked about Kiss, Cheap Trick, Blue Oster Cult, Styx and everyone wanted to play Rush. I have never ever heard of Africa Bambobo of whatever his or her or their name is. And at best the Beasties were a noventy act kind of like The Archies were.

Posted by John A. Miller on Wednesday, 11.14.07 @ 09:37am

"Beaties have only made a handful of albums in their life and none of them are good enough to get into the hall." - John A. Miller

Reading the rest of that, I can safely say that you're a few sandwiches short of a hip hop picnic. The Beasties at their best thrashes KISS Cheap Trick and Styx, and could easily challenge BOC.

"I have never ever heard of Africa Bambobo of whatever his or her or their name is." - John A. Miller

I'll refrain from calling you a racist, as the chances are that you're just plain thick. If you're not aware of somebody's work, DO NOT START/GET IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT THEM

"And at best the Beasties were a noventy act kind of like The Archies were." - John A. Miller

Rubbish. Complete shite, infact. If something is not to your taste, then say so before you bash it

Posted by liam on Wednesday, 11.14.07 @ 11:05am

If you could remove 5 artists already inducted and exchange their spots with 5 you think SHOULD be in there right now, who would these be on both ends?

Posted by shawn on Thursday, 11.15.07 @ 10:01am

I'm not COMPLETELY sure who is inducted, but as for people I would put IN:

Brian Eno,
New Order,
Joy Division,
The Cure,
and Rush

not primarily for artisitic merit, just to keep anon shutup

Posted by liam on Thursday, 11.15.07 @ 11:11am

Off the top of my head, probably missing someone. How about exchanging:

Traffic, Richie Valens, Percy Sledge, The Ronettes, and George Harrison

for:

Genesis, Moody Blues, Chicago, Rush, and The Cars?

Posted by A-Killa on Thursday, 11.15.07 @ 12:07pm

If I was being serious, I would put Roxy Music instead of Rush

Posted by liam on Thursday, 11.15.07 @ 12:40pm

A-Killa, good list except dumping Traffic. Traffic deserves its induction.

Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 11.15.07 @ 16:15pm

I have to admit Liam, when I read that, it made me chuckle...thanks for thinkin' of the boys up North!

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, 11.15.07 @ 16:39pm

Me? I'm always thinking about Oasis...

Posted by liam on Thursday, 11.15.07 @ 16:47pm

Well, you had mentioned Rush, so that is why I said that...

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, 11.15.07 @ 19:45pm

I'd remove Valens, Sledge, Raitt, Seger and ZZ Top. I'd replace them with the top five in my queue for induction: Brian Eno, The Stooges, Kraftwerk, Joy Division and Leonard Cohen.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 11.15.07 @ 23:01pm

"Leonard Cohen" - for the RRHOF - now that is funny, esp considering all the artists still out in the cold, Lol....Lol....:-)

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 11.16.07 @ 05:44am

Has anyone ever given consideration to the SCORPIONS!! They became eligible in 1997 and here it is 10 yrs. later and they have never been nominated!! NOT ONCE!!!!!! What is wrong with this picture!! Over 75 million albums sold, 16 studio albums, 5 live albums, numerous compilations....not to mention that they are well past the "25 yr." mark. Guitarist Rudolph Schenker started the band in 1965, Klaus Meine followed in 1970. This band has been around for a long damn time, and they are the most underrated, unappreciated band there is. Not to mention that their record label BMG, totally sucks when it comes to promoting them.

Come on people!! Give credit where credit is due!!!! It really pisses me off to know that bands like the Monkee's, have been inducted, or the possibilty of the Beastie Boys being inducted over the Scorpions. I think someone needs some sense knocked into them by a Flying-V or a Gibson Explorer!!

Posted by Tonia on Friday, 11.16.07 @ 08:51am

But did the Scorpions ever really do anything innovative? As far as I know, they were a straight-ahead hard rock band their whole career. Staying around for 40 years and selling 75 million albums is praiseworthy but it doesn't make them Hall of Famers. You can appreciate a good solid band without endorsing them for the Hall of Fame.

Posted by A-Killa on Friday, 11.16.07 @ 09:16am

Here is another interesting music site that includes writeups on the '08 HoF nominees. They endorse everyone except Cohen.

www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_halloffame_08.html

Posted by A-Killa on Friday, 11.16.07 @ 09:21am

"Well, you had mentioned Rush, so that is why I said that..."

Cheer up, anon, it was a joke

Posted by liam on Friday, 11.16.07 @ 10:31am

"Cheer up, anon, it was a joke"

Oh, better keep your day job then...

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 11.16.07 @ 17:27pm

"Oh, better keep your day job then..." -anon

Dude..(heavy sigh) -- you are sometimes so right on the cusp of just barely NOT being a tool -- and then you go and blow it - do you just have a blown fuse somewhere in your wiring?
Liam's comment/joke about alwayd having Oasis on his mind was perfect -- self-efacing and also a nudge to you about giving him a hard time about it. I laughed.
Why are you so hopelessly obtuse so often? You're just always going to be a dork I guess.

Posted by shawn on Saturday, 11.17.07 @ 10:16am

"Why are you so hopelessly obtuse so often? You're just always going to be a dork I guess."

Way to over analyze it...it was a joke my dad used to make when someone was trying to be funny, but was not..that's all it was, nothing else. It was said "lightly" and meant for Liam to take it that way.

But, at this point, I expect that verbosity and level of stupidity on your part...keep up the good work you fuckin hick

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 11.17.07 @ 11:51am

"But, at this point, I expect that verbosity and level of stupidity on your part...keep up the good work you fuckin hick"

No, anon, if anyone here is a 'hick' it is you. My original comment was intended as a joke, and your following comment gave me and shawn the impression that you didn't get it.

Talk about 'over the head'

Posted by liam on Saturday, 11.17.07 @ 13:35pm

I live in NYC area - no cows here. I knew you were joking...obviously, you are not "always" thinking of Oasis...I was just going with it, so to speak - I guess you misunderstood - that happens when typing on a blog

Keep your day job was a joke too...oh well....BTW, either way Shawn is a moron and a hick....he probably is cow tipping right now - LOL

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 11.17.07 @ 14:17pm

"Well, you had mentioned Rush, so that is why I said that..."

Which part, exactly, was funny/meant to be funny?

"Keep your day job was a joke too...oh well"

And a rubbish, day-to-day, overused one at that

"he probably is cow tipping right now"

That would be funny if

a) I was American

b) it had ANY relevance to what's going on, rather than being some random remark that you probably laughed at for about a week

c) you hadn't put LOL at the end of it; just ruins whatever humour there might have been

Posted by liam on Saturday, 11.17.07 @ 15:20pm

Wow, Liam..wow

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 11.17.07 @ 15:57pm

"Wow, Liam..wow" - anon

You are the consummate waste of time Anon. There you go again, step by step, with your fucking jackass TOOL kit, building your throne of imagined enlightenment. Your like a professional Ass Clown. Yea Anon...... it's US -- not you. God you are an insufferable self arrogated boob.

May I have your NYC address so that i may send you a Christmas gift? I'm going to get you a little window. Yea, you can install it right about bellybutton level. It's so you can see out since your head is lodged so far up your ass.

Posted by shawn on Saturday, 11.17.07 @ 19:58pm

Shawn, you take yourself way too serious...lord help you...and no I would not give you my address, you would not last 5 minutes here....

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 11.17.07 @ 22:42pm

"Shawn, you take yourself way too serious...lord help you...and no I would not give you my address, you would not last 5 minutes here...."

Oooooh yea anon - cause you're such lone wolf badass type, roaming the mean streets of NYC, a real Chuck Norris you are - and I know nothing of your gritty world.
What the hell does any of what i popinted out have to do with "taking myself seriously"? You're like the goddamn David Copperfield of ass talk - always some randon non-sequiter bunny or dove you're pulling out of your bunghole.
You are such a fucking tool. Such a tool.

Posted by shawn on Saturday, 11.17.07 @ 23:23pm

You just can't stop, can you? All this b/c I did not "Cheer up"...c'mon

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, 11.18.07 @ 03:00am

"All this b/c I did not "Cheer up""

Right anon, that's it. It's all because Shawn and Liam can't appreciate the essence of you - you don't provoke irritation or exasperation whatsoever (here is the part where you LOL, tell us to 'get a life', 'relax', generally act like an obtuse putz). And over the last 7 months it's neer been you - it's been the obvious defects of William, Kit, and eveb Dezmond once or twice.

You're the goddamn paragon of wisdom and wit and admirability. Tool.

Posted by shawn on Sunday, 11.18.07 @ 08:07am

Dude, this is not the fuckin Oprah Winfrey Show or Dr. Phil. Talk about music already. Look, when typing on these blogs, the message can get lost, the tone is lost, etc. That is what happens on blogs...I have had no beef with any of those people you list and have nothing against them - except in instances when I do not agree with them. Sorry, but certain people on this site act like know it alls at times - sometimes they are right, and sometimes not, so I give my opinion. You wouldn't know of course because you are so far up their asses...but nice try in attempting once again align with them in some juvenile coalition...this is not high school...honestly, are you on any psychotropics?

As for How do you take youself and this WAY, WAY too serious? Well, for starters, as I just said, your attempt at developing cliques on this blog is down right weird. And, remember, you are the guy that chastises 12 year olds and adolescents who blog here (i.e. see Mellencamp page) - a 40 something "arguing" with children - nuf' said....

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, 11.18.07 @ 08:40am

"nuf' said...."

No, anon, not nearly enough has been said. You regularly post comments that shawn and I (I won't bring any other names into this) find irritating, innacurate, incomprehensible, sluggish and boring.

That would be OK, but to turn around and act like WE are the ones who need to conform is just a fucking piss take.

"so I give my opinion. You wouldn't know of course because you are so far up their asses"

How contradictory, anon. Totally unlike you! Did you just forget about how you took the 'anal sex comment'?

Posted by liam on Sunday, 11.18.07 @ 11:05am

"you would not last 5 minutes here...." - anon

Can't honestly imagine someone who deifies Rush being very street-wise.

Posted by liam on Sunday, 11.18.07 @ 13:26pm

"a 40 something "arguing" with children - nuf' said...."

Hahahahahahaha!!!! Couldn't have nailed it better myself, anon. How wonderfully perfect.

Posted by shawn on Sunday, 11.18.07 @ 21:36pm

"Dude, this is not the fuckin Oprah Winfrey Show or Dr. Phil. Talk about music already." -anon

Says the dork just before he spouts off 150+ more words and 3 more posts of his own on nothing about music. Har-dee-har.

"I have had no beef with any of those people you list and have nothing against them" - anon

Yup. I mean, it's not like we have 7 months worth of printed proof that completely contradicts THAT, do we?

"..except in instances when I do not agree with them." -anon

Because conflict always occurs when you do agree with someone, sure. This is great stuff, anon.

"Sorry, but certain people on this site act like know it alls at times" -anon

So much for 'having no beef with them'. Dork.

"You wouldn't know of course because you are so far up their asses" - anon

See Anon, when two individuals actually have cogent lines of thought and aren't tedious bufoons, they often do something called
"Agreeing". They can even share a laugh or attain mutual respect. I understand, you poor troll, that this is something strange and foreign to your world, so when you observe others in harmonious exchange the bitter machinery in your head likes to call that "ass-kissing". Pity the fool.

"...but nice try in attempting once again align with them in some juvenile coalition...this is not high school.."

What? I assure you Anon, neither I nor any of the regulars I mentioned have the petty impulse to form any silly clique. You're conjuring up phantom conspiracies. We may have a common exasperation with you, but that comes naturally and not from any effort at allignment. Most people also dislike drunk beligerants - doesn't make them "a club".

"Look, when typing on these blogs, the message can get lost, the tone is lost, etc. That is what happens on blogs..." - anon

Ah, the old hackneyed chestnut: "posts/emails can't be translated correctly". You are pleading "misunderstood", or some similar rubbish then?

Let me illustrate one classic Anon habit through analogy... see if you can follow it:

Shawn, Liam, Dezmond, Kit, SG, Casper, Wiiliam and Anon all work in the same office. The others are bewildered as to why their one co-worker refuses to go by his own name, but oh well. He's kinda funny; wears Rush concert t's on Casual Friday, claims he is actually a doctor, laughs to himself a lot. He's "That Guy".

Anyway, Anon comes into work occasionally wearing nothing but a hideous lime green thong. Walks around the cubicles with his junk barely covered, his hideous hairy ass exposed when he uses the copier. When one coworker objects, Anon says "What? I'm not innappropriately dressed - you're one of those "fully dressed" snobs - you think you know everything about wardrobe - this is how I roll.
When a couple of others concur that Anon is an offense, Anon calls them ass kissers, a clique. To divert attention from his thong offense, he then pours lighter fluid on his hair and lights it on fire. Anon cries: "Is this better?! You happy now?!"
The original complainer replies, "WTF? What does that have to do with your near nudity?"

Anon cries, "You need to relax - my thong is old news. Besides, I'm not offensive - you're UNDER dressed. LOL, LOL..."

Later that day they are all leaving work and pile into the same elevator.
Anon lets loose a rank and vile fart in the enclosed space. Shawn complains, "You fucking farted."
Anon says, "No I didn't. You did"
Shawn says, "Jesus Krist Anon, what is wrong with you - that is awful?"
Anon first says, "I did not fart." Then he morphs into, "Whoo -I see you are a smell expert, Shawn! My fart is not offensine - it smells of Jasmine and Vanilla. Get a life, stop taking yourself so seriously."
Shawn says, "Bullshit. That smells like a diaper full of Indian food. What's wrong with you? Did you eat some kind of wild game last night? Cripes."
Anon then says, "Stop wasting our time with talk of odors - wer'e in an elevator and I'm just concerned with getting somewhere. You're all caught up in smells and such."
Shawn, "DUDE! You fucking polluted our common air with yoiur vile ass fumes."
Liam dares to concur.
Anon bemoans, "I see - you're forming a clique Shawn. How typical.
Rush rules. 'Nuf said."

Posted by shawn on Monday, 11.19.07 @ 09:15am

That is some post there Shawn, what did you spend an hour on it...you are what my friend used to call a "wind up doll." As I said, you take this way too serious...try to have some fun with it. And, yes I have had my disagreements with Kit, William, Liam (as they have had with many, many other bloggers other than myself). But, the point is, they are also very knowledgable about music and contrary to what you believe, I respect their opinions, despite the fact that I do not always agree with them. I having nothing against someone that is nothing more than an unknown name on a screen...

now don't you have some poor child to chastise about how their

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